so the other day I get an email, some douchebag is asking if he should chargeback his steroid purchase

first thing comes to my mind, wtf is this kid smoking right?

I mean who would buy steroids with a credit card…but wait, I keep reading the email. He didn’t use a credit card to buy steroids , BETTER!!! he used PAYPAL to buy steroids that’s right, this douchebag bought some sust and deca with a paypal account linked to his bank account.

now I ask you, why would anyone take steroid purchases so lightly? do you really believe you’re buying candy or even an ebay item, seriously?

What comes to mind is a blog post I read by Anthony Roberts where he wrote about the “vets” and “gurus”…makes me wonder how many of those goofs take paypal as a form of payment (yea yea they are sources, and yea yea I can name just about all of them). So let’s run by the moron list.

step 1) use your mom’s name to buy steroids

step 2) pay with paypal

step 3) get scammed

step 4) call paypal tell them you bought steroids with your dads paypal account and now you want your money back

step 5) get a good hemp rope, I would say 5 inches in diameter minimum

step 6) find a good , strong metal bar

step 7) tie the rope off at the metal bar, the other end at your neck - and hang yourself

conclusion: Darwins theory of evolution , you’re an idiot aka inferior species so you will die out

and dont email me bitching about being politically correct, I don’t give a shit…

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Well as I predicted, BD aka British Dragon is now out of business - check out their site and message. In case it changes later, I got a print screen for you.

“British Dragon has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of British Dragon.

Thus, no genuine British Dragon products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.

All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).

British Dragon would like to thank its loyal supporters.

Please re-visit this site for further bulletins.”

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this is care of anthony roberts blog

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Ok. I choose to post this information here, in my own blog, instead of on any one particular message board. The reason for this is simple; by posting it here, I can avoid claims of bias, and such…I can also avoid being censored, and bring everyone the truth, as it was told to me. I’m not making any money off of this, and I don’t profit in any way from any endorsement of any particular brands or pharmacies…in other words, my income is solely from writing , book sales, and (now) from my supplement line. I have a pretty wide readership in my blog, equivalent to most discussion boards with around 4-5k registered members (if search engines and such statistics are to be believed).

I also choose to put this information here because if I were to post it on any board on the internet, claims of bias on the part of the board owner(s), mods, etc…would run rampant. And honestly, so would claims from people who heard something from their bro, who heard something from a respected bro, who heard….ad nauseam.

Now…

As many people know, British Dragon is the oldest and most respected name in anabolic producers to date. They initially opened up many years ago, founded by two guys who I’ll call “J” and “R”…because their names aren’t important for my purposes here.

As J told me, he didn’t get into the buisness of anabolics to earn a nobel prize, but rather to earn money. I doubt my efforts in writing will eventually earn me the former, and this current effort will not earn me the latter…but I digress…

What eventually happened, after the formation of British Dragon was unprecidented success in the field. A money making endevor turned into the most widely recognized, respected (and counterfeited) name in the field of anabolics. I can’t comment on the legality (*at the time) of their activities, as I don’t know the laws of the countries they operated in.

Fast forward several years to 2006.

At some point in the beginning of this year, a push to legitimize the company was started from within. Things get hazy from here, but I was kept in the loop by several parties, all within BD itself. At this point, one of the founders related to me his desire to quit the buisness and sell off his interest in the company. Understandable, I told him.

During the push to legitimize the company, a third partner was brought on. We’ll call him “A”…which should make it obvious to most people who he is. He operates a legitimate buisness (a pharmacy) in his country, and was/is a BD remailer.

The three partners all put up money and plans to buy a factory for the production of high-quality anabolics was purchased. This point, and all of the previous points are agreed upon by all parties involved. No issues yet.

Now, apparently, A (alone) had to keep investing in the company, driving up his initial investment, and appreciating the value of the company’s assets (more machines, raw materials, etc…). A also was given power of attourney and registered the BD logo and such, and gained trademark/copyright for everything involved. There is a dispute on how long power of attourney was to last, ranging from one side saying 3 months, to the other saying 3 years. The factory was built (I have ownership papers in my posession and have provided them on request to several people already) and a licence granting status as a leitimate pharmaceutical company was granted. All of this was under A’s supervision and control, where he was located. The BD website remained under control of the two founders.

Now, on or about October 19th, I received an internal memo from within BD stating that a remailer, G****L (I’m censoring their name because I don’t need them getting any free publicity from me…I consider them a bunch of douchebags)…started a rumour that A was selling BD counterfeits. Now, logically, how can the person who is running the factory where BD is produced be accused of making counterfeits? It doesn’t make much sense to me. It would appear that recently, G****L attempted to start that same rumour again. Again, it is false.

BD products were, until recently, being produced by A, while all packing/packaging was supplied by the original owners (this way, they had an idea of inventory…if they shipped out X amount of bottles and labels per month, then they knew that much product was being produced per month).

Then, as often happens, things went south…internal disputes regarding money and contract terms arose, etc…I can’t comment on internal issues like this, other than it is my understanding that nobody is 100% happy with how things turned out (the sign of a true buisness deal: nobody leaves the negotiating table happy). I’m told that the initial investment by the two founders leaves them with a percentage o the company now, although less %-wise than they started out with. They also own the website as well. The factory and rights to the name and BD logo remain with A, who was (during at least one point) the majority shareholder of the (now) legitimatized company. A also continues to own and operate the facilities for production of pharmaceuticals, of human-grade quality and licencing. This is what I know up until now. Anyone who is still selling BD is getting rid of their final stock.

At least one of the founders is retired and totally done with things. I haven’t spoken to the other. From what I know of the one I spoke/speak to, he still will probably not earn that nobel prize, but I trust is alright financially. Again, he’s retired from the field. The other founder, I am uncertain about. The third, and most recent partner still holds paperwork and properties, as previously stated.

British Dragon, however, will most likely not be produced….for at least awhile. I’m of the opinion that all parties are (or have) already washed their hands of the incident, and have moved on to better things. Several sources on the internet are waging some sort of sad turf war in the aftermath, but in reality, all of their claims are very silly. I’ve read the allegations of threats, scams, counterfeits and all the rest, and think them to be utter bullshit. None of the people arguing in the wake of this incident, who were not involved in the ownership of BD, really have a leg to stand on with regards to their claims. The three people involved with this buisness deal (gone sour) are the only ones who this should really concern.

As I understand it, none of the three people with share(s) in the company will continue to produce the BD brand of products any longer. Remaining stock of products will be sold by remailers…but it’s uncertain whether anymore will ever be produced. Of course, the three people involved can sort all of it out amongst themselves or sell the company or whatever…but that is speculative at best.

Again, claims by various sources on the internet, who are simply remailers and such, should be dismissed out of hand as bullshit. I’m suspecting that counterfeits will flood the market after awhile, and people who will claim to have suspiciously large amounts “remaining” from before the company will spring up.

I’m hoping that this puts to rest the conjecture and speculation currently rampant on the internet, and sheds some light on this regretable situation. I wish the best for the people involved, and moreso that this only could have gone better for all involved. Knowing the caliber of people involved, I’m sure all of them will bounce back from it all.

It’s also highly regretable that so many people sought to capitolize on the situation and attack others…I can only hope that those people, their venomous e-mails, posts, and outright lies are ignored, and that both the people who founded the most well loved of all pharmaceutical brands, as well as their most recent partner, continue to prosper in whatever areas they pursue. I know they will.

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I have tried most popular Underground steroid brands. From BD to James-Bathtub-Labs, and I can tell you the list of products I liked was short. I prefer pharmaceutical grade steroids MIXed with UG products, not a 100% reliance on UG labs. I mean you can’t buy all steroids from pharmacies, it’s just not possible. I mean how many pharmacies sell pharmaceutical grade trenbolone ? none really because none exists. In terms of steroids , I prefer a few brands.

British Dispensary (NOT british dragon ) so don’t confuse the two…British Dispensary is a pharmaceutical company out of thailand that makes the best damn dbol on the market. I love it! For my testosterone , I like Rotexmedica and Schering pharmaceutical brands. Cidoteston out of egypt is ok, but I wouldn’t put too much weight on it. For products like EQ , Trenbolone , primolan , I prefer to use well known brands like British Dragon or Thai Phoenix . I tried GB standard out of thailand and it was shitty, I didn’t see any results. I ran Thai Phoenix EQ I bought from a pharmacy in thailand and the results were amazing - so definately a difference. British dragon , the only complaint I had was the damn pain - I really wanted to kill myself over the god damn pain in my leg, so be careful on that one.

Read my blog about BD, I think BD is done for anyhow, so options are going to become limited as time goes on. Steroid use and legal steroids are going to have to replace some short range goals for newbies - or at least I tend to think so.

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